From: Nektarios Moumoutzis
To: Costas Vassilakis - SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR , Dimosthenis Anagnostopoulos , 'Dimitris Gouscos - SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR' , Mara Nikolaidou , "M\\msu Akymisti~tg"
Cc: "'gcsd@csd.uch.gr'" , "'grads@ced.tuc.gr'" , "'grads@csd.uch.gr'" , POESP , SYLLOGOS PTYXIOYXWN TMHMATOS PLHROFORIKHS , Syllogos Foititon Pliroforikis Panepistimiou Athinon
Cc: "'ugrads@ced.uch.gr'" , "'ugrads@csd.uch.gr'" , "'uopceid@uivlsi.csl.uiuc.edu'"
Subject: RE: Geniki Syneleusi POESP
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 11:47:25 +-200


-- Panellinia Omospondia Epistimonikon
-- Syllogon Pliroforikis (POESP)
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-- dieuth. Valtetsiou 50-52, Athina
-- tilef.	33.03.511
-- fax	38.46.126
-- email	poesp@csd.uch.gr
-- www	http://193.92.171.201/poesp/poesp.html
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--				Athina, 25.9.1996
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--				Pros	k. Nancy Alonistioti
--					k. Dimostheni Anagnostopoulo
--					k. Kosta Vassilaki
--					k. Mara Nikolaidou
--				Koin.	Proedro D.S. POESP
--					D.S. Syll. Ptyx. Plir. Pan/miou Athinon
--					D.S. Syll. Foit. Plir. Pan/miou Athinon
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-- Thema : Geniki Syneleusi POESP
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-- Agapitoi synadelfoi,
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-- Meta apo mia proti synennoiisi me meli tou Dioikitikou Symvouliou tis
-- POESP, thelo na sas enimeroso oti prokeitai na sygklithei Ektakti =
Geniki
-- Syneleusi tis POESP stin opoia kai parakaleiste na pareuretheite os
-- ekprosopoi tou Syllogou mas. Sygkekrimena, i Geniki Syneleusi tha =
exei
-- os monadiko thema tin
--
--	enimerosi kai lipsi apofaseon gia peraitero drasi meta tis
--	prosfates exelixeis se sxesi me tis Epetirides Pliroforikis
--	gia ti Deuterovathmia Ekpaideusi
--
-- I Geniki Syneleusi prokeitai na diexaxthei
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--	to Savvato 12.10.1996 kai ora 11 p.m.
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--	sta grafeia tou SPOPA (Patision 80, 2os orofos, akrivos dipla apo
--	to kentriko ktirio tou Oikonomikou Panepistimiou).
--
-- I parousia olon mas einai aparaititi, gia auto kai stin periptosi pou
-- kapoioi apo esas den mporoun na parastathoun parakalo na me =
enimerosoun
-- egkaira, oste na frontisoume gia ton orismo analpiromatikon =
ekprosopon.
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-- Eidika gia to synadelfo Dimostheni Anagnostopoulo, o opoios ypiretei =
tin
-- thiteia tou, exo idi syzitisei me tin Sofia Sexperidou, Proedro tou =
Syllogou
-- ton Ptyxiouxon mas, to endexomeno na oristei anapliromatikos =
ekprosopos sti
-- thesi tou.
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-- Sas euxaristo kai parakalo na me enimerosete gia to an tha mporesete
-- na parastatheite i oxi.
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-- Xairetismous se olous,
-- Dimitris Gouscos
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-- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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-- Dimitris Gouscos
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-- email	gouscos@di.uoa.gr                                     =20
-- www	http://www.di.uoa.gr/~gouscos/Welcome.html            =20
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-- office	Dept. of Informatics, Univ. of Athens	Greek Computer Society
-- phone	++(301) 72.30.172 (ext.120)		++(301) 36.45.274       =20
-- fax	++(301) 72.19.561			++(301) 36.45.154       =20
-- address Panepistimiopolis Ilision, TYPA Blds.	16, Mavromichali str.   =
=20
--	GR-15771 Athens, GREECE			GR-10680 Athens, GREECE =20
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Synadelfe,
Eimai o proedros toy D.S. toy S.P.E.Y.P.K.
Eimai sigouros oti gnwrizeis to terastio thema pou exei dhmiourghthei=20
EDW KAI TESSERA XRONIA me thn epethrida plhroforikhs.
H adikia pou synteleitai eis varos twn apofoitwn plhroforikhs einai =
protofanhs
kai den symvainei me kanena allo klado!
Omws ta teleytaia dyo xronia, pera apo thn adikia yparei kai paranomia,
afou kai ayto to PD 118/1195 paraviazertai eis baros twn apofoitwn =
plhroforikhs.
H paranomia einai oti oi apofoitoi kathigitikwn sxolwn anti na =
protassontai kat' etos,
protassontai katholika sthn epethrida plhroforikhs.
H paranomia ayth einai gnwsth sto Ypoyrgei kai o k. Papageorgiou se =
suzhthsh
pou eixame thn Tetarth 18 Septemvriou kata th diatkeia ths
syggentrwshs diamartyrias pou kaname to eixe dextei kai malista
eipe oti "den peirazei na anakalesoume kai 100 apo tous feteinous =
diorismous".
Ki omws, oxi mono den tous anakaloun, alla proxwroun kai se diorismous
anaplhrwtwn kai wromisthiwn me thn paranomh epethrida kai kanenos
to ayti den idrwnei.
H POESP OFEILEI NA PAREI AMESA THESH.
An perimenei mexri tis 12 Oktwvriou oi diorismoi tha exoun hdh ginei.
O SPEYPK exei hdh steilei FAX sto Ypourgeio Paideias kai olous tous
PLHNET gia na anastaloun oi diorismoi monimwn kai anaplhrwtwn.
Eimaste apofasismenoi an ayto den ginei, apo thn epomenh edbomada na
proxwrthsoume se katalhpseis twn kata topous dieythinseon =
deyterovathmias
ekpaideyshs.
=20
Thelw na pw omws kai kati allo pou se afora proswpika kai thelw na
apanthseis toso se emena oso kai se olous tous synadelfous pou =
ekproswpeis
mesa apo thn POESP.
An den kanw lathos, PAGIA thesh ths POESP einai oti sthn
epethrida prepei na mpainoun MONO apofoitoi plhroforikhs.
Kai erwtw: ta melh toy D.S. ths POESP (ara kai esy) desmeveste na
prowtheitai tis theseis ths POESP h oxi?
An nai, tote tithetai terastio zhthma sxetika me to dhmosieyma toy Info
sthn Kyriakatikh Eleytherotypia me titlo "Spoudes sthn Plhroforikh"
gia thn Ekthesh th=F3 EPY sxetika me "prosontologio/kathikontologio
tou proswpikou plhroforikhs sto dhmosio tomea".
To dhmosieyma anaferei kai to onoma sou ws melos ths epitrophs
pou synetakse thn ekthesh.
Kai katalhgei me ta symperasmata twn syntaktwn thw meleths opou =
anaferontai
epi leksh ta ekshs:
	Par' olo pou yparxei ikanopoihtikos arithmos wrwn ana ebdomada sxolikou
	programmatos se mathimata eidikothtas stis Texnologies Plhroforikhs
	kai Epikoinwniwn den exei diapistwthei aporofhsh apo thn agora ergasias =
twn apofoitwn
	me monadiko proson tous parexomenous titlous spoudwn.
	Gegonos pou anatrofodoteitai apo to ellipes periexomeno spoudwn
	toy analytikou programmatos h ton kseperasmeno ergasthriako eksoplismo =
pou
	xrhsimopoieitai.
	EKSALLOU EINAI PERIORISMENES OI DYNATOTHTES THS PAREXOMENHS=20
PAIDEIAS APO TOUS EKPAIDEYTIKOUS, AN MALISTA LHFTEI YPOPSI=20
TO GEGONOS OTI H EPETHRIDA PLHROFORIKHS STH DEYTEROVATHMIA
EKPAIDEYSH LEITOURGEI MOLIS EDW KAI TESSERA XRONIA
Dhladh synadelfe an leitourgouse h epethrida panw apo tessera xronia =
etsi opws leitourgei
me tous asxetous 16mhnites kai an agorasoun kainourgia mhxanhmata=20
(mhpws apo thn etaireia opou douleyei ena apo ta melh ths epitrophs?)=20
ta pragmata tha htan kalytera?????
An den einai synwnymia kai ontws symmeteixes sthn epitroph,
ws proedros toy enos apo tous 4 syllogous - melh ths POESP se kalw
na apanthseis amesa sta epomena erwthmata:
1. Poia einai h proswpikh sou thesh gia thn epethrida kai tis =
kinhtopoihseis mas?
2. Poia htan h thesh pou eksefrases sthn en logw epitroph gia to =
sygkekrimeno thema?=20
    An meiopshfises giati den pareththikes?
3. Pws vlepeis to mellon sou san melos tou D.S. ths POESP.
Nomizeis oti einai dynaton na synexizeis na eisai melos tou otan dhmosia =
exei
	fanei oti diafwneis me vasikes theseis tou?

Synadelfoi tou D.S. ths POESP,
to thema pou exei prokypsei einai terastio kai prepei shmera kiolas na =
parete thesh kai
na ksekatharisete ta pragmata.
Diaforetika, opws katalavenetem, tithetai thema swsths ekproswphshs =
toylaxiston tou SPEYPK
apo thn POESP me o,ti ayto synepagetai.
Milontas ek merous olou tou D.S. tou SPEYPK sas dhlwnw oti den prokeitai =
na dextoume=20
yponomeysh tou agwna pou exoume ksekinhsei gia thn epethrida apo kanena=20
kai se kamia periptwsh den thysiazomaste sto vwmo mias aorisths, =
nefelwdous
kai paraplanhtikhs "enothtas".
H enothta katoxyrvnetai kai vathainei mesa apo diekdikhseis kai koines =
theseis
oxi mesa apo grafeiokratikes diadikasies aytoikanopoihshs.

Nektarios Moumoutzis
Proedros D.S. SPEYPK
email nektar@ced.tuc.gr
tilefona (0821) 64803, 69737-8, 46027
		(0831) 23773
fax  (0821)64846